proof of shallowness

[egypturnash]

So I chased a link to this site that claims to be about "questioning transgender politics" but is mostly about claiming that all MtFs horrible evil MEN who want to SUBVERT FEMINISM and INVADE WOMYN-ONLY SPACES. And, okay, this is an attitude that vaguely pisses me off, because I'm not one, and I don't want to, and that's just silly. If I wanted to be all exclusionist and go hang out with nothing but women, except that my definition includes womyn-born-morlocksmen, I'd, like, try and start a better girls-only club that's, you know, cooler, instead of trying to change minds by yelling at crusty old lesbians who think A Penis Is Forever.

But anyway. That's not the point I'm going to make here. The point is that this site's design was aggressively horrible - I don't know if it works right on Explorer, but on both Camino and Safari, it was utterly broken, and most of the black body text ran off the tiny little pixel-specified box into the black background. It was so aggressively bad that the combination of the 'zap presentational HTML' and 'zap CSS' bookmarklets still had the text squeezed into tiny little columns. I think that if it worked "right" the text would've been squeezed into a tiny little box, far too tiny to read.

And I'd have been annoyed at the content no matter what it was, because I had to fight to read the thing. Yeah, call me evil and make finding out exactly what kind of evil you're pinning on me utter pain and suffering, thanks, miss "radical feminist".

Presentation matters. Aggressively bad presentation doesn't win you any friends.

Comments

[radd.livejournal.com]

To be fair, they're bigots, not web designers.

[dv-girl.livejournal.com]

We already trashed that website on feminist_rage :)

http://www.livejournal.com/community/feminist_rage/329680.html

[(Anonymous)]

Man, that is a hell of a lot of work to go through in order to subvert the whole feminism deal.

Riki Wilchins briefly covers some run-ins with the feminists to both good and bad effect, sometimes very poorly received, sometimes received with open arms and fascination. In Read My Lips ( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1563410907 ) there was a point where Ricki let a bunch of curious feminists check out the new gear. I could understand that. I was more than a little baffled at points where Ricki wasn't so well received however. I mean, I'd think for a group so focused on the supremacy of the stink blossom (feminism isn't about equality, folks -- seriously) the whole gender-crossing thing would be received as a compliment at worst.

I think I liked that Riki treated the whole deal in every case with humor and a little emotional detachment when things got weird, instead of the bad CSS.

-- McGroarty

[dsch.livejournal.com]

One can hope that, because the site design is so awful, nobody will take the views within the bad layout seriously...

I have to wonder, though, what those twits think of FtMs...

[ex-coyotesda457.livejournal.com]

ignore them. they're just a couple of old guard feminists from the michigan womyn's music festival who refuse to see how irrelevant their politics have become. i tangle with these women regularly.

hello. my name's emily. and i'm from camp trans.