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So I chased a link to this site that claims to be about "questioning transgender politics" but is mostly about claiming that all MtFs horrible evil MEN who want to SUBVERT FEMINISM and INVADE WOMYN-ONLY SPACES. And, okay, this is an attitude that vaguely pisses me off, because I'm not one, and I don't want to, and that's just silly. If I wanted to be all exclusionist and go hang out with nothing but women, except that my definition includes womyn-born-morlocksmen, I'd, like, try and start a better girls-only club that's, you know, cooler, instead of trying to change minds by yelling at crusty old lesbians who think A Penis Is Forever.

But anyway. That's not the point I'm going to make here. The point is that this site's design was aggressively horrible - I don't know if it works right on Explorer, but on both Camino and Safari, it was utterly broken, and most of the black body text ran off the tiny little pixel-specified box into the black background. It was so aggressively bad that the combination of the 'zap presentational HTML' and 'zap CSS' bookmarklets still had the text squeezed into tiny little columns. I think that if it worked "right" the text would've been squeezed into a tiny little box, far too tiny to read.

And I'd have been annoyed at the content no matter what it was, because I had to fight to read the thing. Yeah, call me evil and make finding out exactly what kind of evil you're pinning on me utter pain and suffering, thanks, miss "radical feminist".

Presentation matters. Aggressively bad presentation doesn't win you any friends.

Date: 2004-08-24 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-coyotesda457.livejournal.com
ignore them. they're just a couple of old guard feminists from the michigan womyn's music festival who refuse to see how irrelevant their politics have become. i tangle with these women regularly.

hello. my name's emily. and i'm from camp trans.

Date: 2004-08-24 02:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Ah. Rusty old SMOFs of the lesbian world. Writing anonymously to make it look like more people agree with 'em. Looking at stuff like this makes me kinda wonder how many people might be picking these kinds of beliefs up, though it seems like most folks are perfectly happy to treat me as "woman with funky body history".

I do ignore them. Just trying to make sense of the random babbling on that website was about the most attention I've given that sort of person. If I start running into people like this in the flesh I'll probably end up arguing, but only because I'll start calling them by the wrong pronoun until they call me by the right one.

Date: 2004-08-24 05:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amarafox.livejournal.com
I've run into the old guard of Lesbian feminists as well, because I don't hold a label. it's like I'm diseased because I've had boyfriends before. As such, I'm wary and single. :/

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