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What the world needs right about now is a techno remix of Henry Mancini's Baby Elephant Walk. With acid phase-shifting on the baseline and everything.

Also I just registered Textmate (Mac text editor for programmerly things) and am finally reading the manual. I decided I should pay for it when I was thinking of tossing the prefs to reset the demo period for the third time. Just like in post-Firefox web browsing, I have no damn idea how I lived without tabs in my text editor before this. Yeah, I know, XCode is free, but it just feels gigantic and scary. TextMate feels light and approachable.

Date: 2006-05-22 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwenners.livejournal.com
There is an entire album of remixes, including Baby Elephant Walk.

Cheers,
Gwen Smith

Date: 2006-05-22 05:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Really? A whole album of Mancini remixes? Oh dear...

Date: 2006-05-22 06:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwenners.livejournal.com
Sadly, not of Mancini. It's the Lawrence Welk version (the album? Upstairs at Larry's: Larence Welk Uncorked). All Welk remixes.

Cheers,
Gwen Smith

Date: 2006-05-22 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipotle.livejournal.com
I've been using TextMate for months and keep discovering odd things it can do, particularly from watching some of the "screencasts" available from the web site. For a program as young as it is, it's really full-featured. I've added a few oddities myself to it now -- MPI and MUF syntax highlighting, and a few other tweaks. Its Markdown support is also great, once gets into the weird habit of writing in Markdown. (It's what I do nearly all my LiveJournal posts in now.)

Date: 2006-05-22 05:23 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Mostly I still use TextEdit for word-processory stuff. I like having bold and italics there on screen for my little fragments and notes to myself.

But for things like loading up an entire directory structure of PHP, HTML, and various data files when I'm working on my website? Textmate, definitely. I used to use BBEdit back under OS9, but it just didn't make the transition to OSX very well. Textmate was initially super-ugly when I first encountered it (all text must be screaming pure RGB on black! just like {cryptic UNIX editor of choice}!) but it's gotten better.

Once I realized how much functionality was obscured away in automation->run command I started to like it more. And now that I've skimmed the manual I'm seeing it does a lot of handy stuff...

I do all my LJ posts in XJournal. It's worth it just for the fact that it keeps a local, searchable archive of them all...

Date: 2006-05-22 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolflahti.livejournal.com
I get a 'forbidden' msg when I try to follow the link.

Date: 2006-05-22 05:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Fixed. My fault in chopping down a URL.

Date: 2006-05-22 09:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barberio.livejournal.com
Someone already did a remix of 'The Gonk', if that sooths you any?

Date: 2006-05-22 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eriscontrol.livejournal.com
Tabs are lovely. One of the things I missed from Emacs when I switched to SubEthaEdit was the ability to have multiple editors in one window. Ahh, Emacs. What monstrous beauty.

Date: 2006-05-22 06:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I've never warmed to Emacs, or any of the other unix text editors. Though Textmate is rather Emacs-influenced, I believe.

If you don't use SEE for the collaboration feature, Textmate is worth looking at - it's got stuff like the webkit preview that I admired in SEE, but it's stupidly powerful and configurable. And it does tabs.

Date: 2006-05-22 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlazycat.livejournal.com
I tried TextMate out for a while before realising I'd become used to SEE and find it annoying to have to learn another way of doing things, which is more a depressing reflection on me than on TM for sure. I do like having the file structure right there in a drawer; really really like. It's tough though! Textmate is really really in with the Web 2.0 crowd too, isn't it? I've not seen many screencasts that don't feature someone doing arcane magic with Textmate (how the hell does it complete whole tags with attributes when editing the Schema.xml in the symfony screencast, for example), which makes me want to spend more time with it. Thanks for the 'deleting prefs' trick - I think I need to evaluate it some more.

Meanwhile, I'm finding that 'vi' isn't as bad as all that, and does some really cute things, though I'll never move in with it. :)

Date: 2006-05-22 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Unless there's something about to burst into the world like Athena from Zeus' forehead, I think it's becoming pretty clear that TextMate : OSX :: BBEdit ; Mac Classic - it's becoming the editor that most Mac geeks use*. It's certainly the editor of choice for the Ruby On Gra.dien.ts crowd.

I never got deep into SEE, just using it for the live CSS preview. But I haven't had too many heavy-duty text editing things to do since OSX; I've mostly used TextEdit for little note files. TextMate made hacking my new gallery backend into shape a lot easier than it had any right to use, just with the file drawer alone.

* notwithstanding *nix geeks who got a Mac for its prettiness, and are still delighted to use Emacs/Vi/etc in a terminal.

Date: 2006-05-23 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlazycat.livejournal.com
Ruby On Gra.dien.ts
*snigger* That's brilliant :)

Because most of what I do is PHP coding, with very little contact with HTML/CSS (thank god, it drives me crazy these days), SEE is a nice simple fast-loading editor with the ability to jump to functions/methods quickly, do regular expression search/replace, and pretty highlighting. It'd be great if I fell into bed with TextMate and found yet more ways of making my life easier, but that's plenty to get by on, and TM has all that too, but in different places, so the differences distract me. That said, I did some digging after my last comment, and found the bundle repository, and it had Propel and Symfony bundles, so I guess I know how it did the crazy magic now. Might be worth a try - where symfony configuration is concerned, any shortcuts are good. :)

Date: 2006-05-23 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eriscontrol.livejournal.com
I think I'm a few steps ahead of you. I downloaded it as soon as I saw the link, because you generally seem to know what you're talking about. :)

Emacs and I have sort of a bitter-sweet relationship. I'm a little bummed that the Cocoa port seems to not be able to open documents from Finder, but I have fond memories of using it as a development environment in Windows (the only fond memories I have of Windows) and Linux (some of the few fond memories I have of Linux).

One feature I really miss from Emacs (at least, the versions I used) was that pressing tab would indent the current line to the proper level automatically, as defined by the current mode, and even transparently use tabs and spaces where appropriate. That was far more useful to me than inserting a tab character, at any rate. :)

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