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I hate Photoshop. I can't find anything in it. Ever. Where the @#$% is the tool to let you edit a gradient? I can't @#$%ing find it. I've found it before and now I can't find it, just the stupid "preset manager" that lets you delete and load and save them. I hate Photoshop.

I hate Flash, too. Every release has been slower and slower for me. It's impossible to focus on something I'm trying to do when I have to wait a second or two after damn near every click. MX2004 is *almost* usable compared to MX. It's still a big sluggish piece of garbage.



Oh, there's the gradient editor. Click on the gradient in the gradient fill options bar instead of the drop-down next to it. Searching the help on 'gradient' managed to find that. How @#$%ing logical. I hate Photoshop.

And the first person to say the stuff about who blames their tools gets hurt. Flash is a poor tool.

Also, my net is screwed and I can't seem to upload anything larger than, say, a piece of text e-mail. So I can't put files up on the collaboration site even if I wasn't stressing and spinning my wheels, or get them out via FTP, or e-mail. I hate computers.



While I'm venting, I'd just like to say that the least unusable version of Flash was 5. Every release since then has been downhill. Doing anything involves a lot more clicks than it used to. And waiting for Flash to get off its ass and decide to respond to those clicks. Supposedly they're going to try to fix that in the next version, but I only trust Macromedia to get it wrong. Admittedly now that Adobe bought them maybe they can go back to 5's UI. They ditched it 'cause Adobe sued them 'cause it was a bunch of easy-to-use palettes, just like Photoshop and Illustrator. It's still palette-heavy but it's ugly awkward ones now, and the main hate is for the "contextual inspector palette" that replaces the frame palette, the instance palette, and about six other palettes, and tries to be "smart" about what it shows you. "Smart" meaning in this case "annoying".

Date: 2005-06-16 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orb2069.livejournal.com
I've often thought that Photoshop is quickly turning into the EMACS of image editing...

Date: 2005-06-16 07:45 pm (UTC)
zeeth_kyrah: A glowing white and blue anthropomorphic horse stands before a pink and blue sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
I got lots of advice about network trouble, but only if you want it. And I'm not nearly so experienced as certain other people.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Thanks for the offer, but no. I don't think anyone's touched anything in our configuration, so it's the provider.

Besides, if I try to fix it, I'll just end up in a screaming argument with Stacey.

Date: 2005-06-16 08:25 pm (UTC)
zeeth_kyrah: A glowing white and blue anthropomorphic horse stands before a pink and blue sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
K. Then I'll just suggest the two magic words, "power cycle", and shut up.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] secretagentmoof
Photoshop has Word-ified - a small, not-too-awful interface when it first started out, but has now bloated and uglified into unusability.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neillparatzo.livejournal.com
Gradient editing is pretty much marginalized in Photoshop by the fact it's so hard to get to. Plus the completely unnecessary dichotomy of gradient fill vs. "Gradient Overlay".

What bothers me the most about Photoshop is that each version seems to have fewer features than the last. Sure, sure, more marketroid features, but did you know that between Photoshop 7 and Photoshop CS, they completely eliminated the ability to save a 32-bit .TGA file?

It's like the world's simplest image format (you know when Linden Lab (http://secondlife.com/) picks it as the only supported texture format, it's got to be so simple a dog could implement it)... excised for no discernable reason.

Other than a "fuck you, we can make Photoshop do whatever we want" message.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neillparatzo.livejournal.com
And unmapping it so you can't Edit->Clear by hitting Delete anymore. That's another thing they cut from 7 to CS.

Date: 2005-06-16 08:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
edit->keyboard shortcuts

which is actually a step up - you can FINALLY edit SOME of the keyboard shortcuts.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neillparatzo.livejournal.com
Well, um, OK, thanks! c_c

Date: 2005-06-16 09:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
It took me a while to find, too. I was pissed that 7 removed the 'make apple-z/apple-shift-z step through history' switch until I realized it was folded intp general key-remapping.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
You're shitting me. You can't make alpha TGAs anymore? Man, I'm sticking with 5.5 FOREVER.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
You can, but it's weird and convoluted. You have to explicitly make an alpha channel in the channels palette, it won't build one for you from the transparency embedded in your layers.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neillparatzo.livejournal.com
"it won't build one for you from the transparency embedded in your layers"

The way it used to.

The other thing I hate is the giant delay whenever I launch CS... it's like it starts up just for looks, then goes completely catatonic for around 30 seconds. I'm guessing that may be an Adobe phone-home activation thing, though... side effect of the fact I'm using legally-licensed CS at work and bootleg 7 at home.

Date: 2005-06-16 07:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wootsauce.livejournal.com
re blaming tools or not: when you're at the equivalent of drawing with a ham through several layers of fog and time delay, well...

Date: 2005-06-16 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com
Does it compare with Gimp?

Date: 2005-06-16 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com
Hmmm... taking your example, I could say "Maybe."

With Gimp 2.2, open up the Gradient list/window via the tool window's File menu (or right-click the image for the dropdown menu, or the image's menubar, or the image's upper left corner of the ruler bar), select the gradient to edit, and at the bottom hit the pencil-on-document icon. Or double-click the gradient's picture. Or right-click the gradient and choose from the menu.

You know, there's too many ways to edit a gradient in Gimp (as well as do anything else), plus you can change the keying of particular commands (like I have done: Shift-Control-V pastes into a new image).

*double-checks* And yes, it still supports TGA files.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
Gimp makes me weep bitter angry tears. I've tried Photoshop back from 2.5, up to CS, and I always go back to 5.5. Not too bloated, I'm used to the tools, and it makes sense.

Date: 2005-06-16 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com
Adobe's acquisition of Macromedia is my doing, I think. At the "suggestions" part of their website I asked "When are you guys going to make an animation program to kill flash? I'm tired of wrestling with it. Adobe Illustrator with a timeline would do fine." A few weeks later they announce the merger.

Date: 2005-06-16 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ceruleanst.livejournal.com
I remember when it was possible to pick up a program like Photoshop just by trying it. I think the industry decided that they weren't selling enough how-to books and training classes, and set to work changing their interfaces with every version so that they would be as unintuitive and nonsensical as possible. Thank goodness for old software. I don't know what I would do without Corel Draw 6 and Paint Shop Pro 5.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolphyn.livejournal.com
Heh heh, that's kind of how I feel about Illustrator right now. I can only hope I'll grow more comfortable with it with practice.

Date: 2005-06-16 09:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Hee. Every time I post "I HATE PHOTOSHOP" someone says something like that about Illustrator. It's what you're used to, really.

Date: 2005-06-17 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
I don't hate illustrator, but I cannot imagine making vector art. :D It's like, I don't hate a drill press, I just wouldn't know what to do with one.

Date: 2005-06-17 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ultraken.livejournal.com
Drill holes in things? :D

(Though that would probably be fun for, oh, fifteen minutes. Then it would sit in the corner of the garage, collecting dust.)

Date: 2005-06-19 01:40 am (UTC)
zeeth_kyrah: A glowing white and blue anthropomorphic horse stands before a pink and blue sky. (Default)
From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
That depends on how you like to join things. I would use a drill press now and then if I did get into cabinetry, though an ordinary handheld would work all right for most things.

Date: 2005-06-16 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martes.livejournal.com
I will heartily agree on how horrible Flash 5 is.

I also hate the line tool on Photoshop 6.

Date: 2005-06-16 10:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Mostly I prefer Flash 5 over all other versions. 4 is sooo hard to edit anything in because you have to context-menu to get to stuff for controlling symbols and tinting and whatnot.. And the later versions brought in the hideous unified 'properties' panel, which I loathe. For much the same reasons.

If not for the fact that it requires running Classic, and that I always get files made in the Latest Version that I have to massage to be able to work on in 5, I'd use 5 for everything involving Flash.

Date: 2005-06-17 10:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koogrr.livejournal.com
And the first person to say the stuff about who blames their tools gets hurt.

Agreed. I usually spit back, "And an expert knows when they're using crap - unlike YOU."

Date: 2005-06-17 10:26 am (UTC)
ext_646: (the one true tool)
From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Oooooh. I'm using that one. Thanks!

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