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Here's another one of those idle 'what do you think of me' kinds of entries. I'm noticing I do this more than I used to.

I think I'm safe in assuming that most everyone reading this journal is a geek. And one of the things that's now encoded in geek DNA is the D&D alignment system. Two axes, Good/Evil and Law/Chaos, with Neutral where the cross. Chaotic Good, Lawful Neutral, Neutral Evil, Lawful Evil, True Neutral... I think we all know the basics of it, right? Even if you've never played D&D, the concept's somewhere in the basic assumptions of nearly every RPG.

So I use the people reading my LJ as a mirror again, and ask... what alignment do I seem to be?

(I suggest an alternative to 'neutral', as well - 'varies'. If you think I'm essentially good, but sway back and forth on the Law/Chaos axis, I'd be 'Variously Good'. 'Neutral' is a 'neither', possibly concerned with the balance between the opposing ends of an axis; 'varies' is a very different kind of 'neither', where both are clearly manifest in my actions.)

(inspired by conversation with [livejournal.com profile] feralwolfie)

(ps. also, there's the concept of being one but trying to be another. Instinctively NG but trying to be LE, for instance. also, I have some idea of what alignment I think I am, and I'm really curious if it matches how others see me.)

Date: 2004-05-10 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sardonicus.livejournal.com
Good, but in a variant sort of way....

Date: 2004-05-10 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mister-wolf.livejournal.com
Chaotic good.

Date: 2004-05-10 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artonis.livejournal.com
Mm. Chaotic Good, I'd say. Then again, everyone I know seems like that to me. Except George Bush, he seems Stupidly Evil.

Date: 2004-05-10 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spengler.livejournal.com
We don't really even know each other, so maybe my view will be a little different. 8)

I'm going to go against the previous three responses and say that you're Lawful - especially because of the disciplined approach you take to your art and your seeming search for ordered, lawful explanations to events in your life. (As far as I can see by your LJ entries.)

On the Good/Evil axis, well, I believe all people are inherently Neutral. Everyone tries to do good, but has to keep a bit of self-servicing in there as well.

So, your D&D alignment is Lawful Neutral.

Date: 2004-05-10 12:08 pm (UTC)

Date: 2004-05-10 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] koogrr.livejournal.com
Well, for starters I think most people are neutral. The definitions basically say neutral people will do things for their friends, and stuff that benefits them. It doesn't mean they don't do good things, just they aren't actively, greatly motivated to do good works in the same way they aren't actively motivated to do evil things. So on the G-N-E, unless someone is actively, extensively one end or the other, I usually put them in the middle.

Same for the Law-Neutral-Chaos. At one end, a rules stickler, follower of hiearchy, strict codes, at the other a loose, make it up as you go along rugged individual, and in the middle people who follow the rules if they're convenient, and break them if they're inconvenient. Once again, most people like animals are neutral, making for the big N of Neutral-Neutral.

So now you. I don't think you've killed anyone or actively tried to screw someone over, so not evil. Likewise, I don't know that you spend a lot of time volunteering in soup kitchens, donating to charity, taking bullets for total strangers, so you're probably not good. (Remember, it's active, ground-pounding working to improve life around you, not just being nice, so please don't be insulted by this assessment). So, neutral.

As far as L-N-C goes, you're an artist. You're tv/ts. You come up with the oddest things to roleplay, odd in a good way, as in, how did she think of this? You forget to wear a shirt, not once, but twice and decide to brazen it through. So, definately, definately, definately Chaotic.

So, overall, Chaotic-Neutral, or as our gaming group likes to call it, Chaotic-Insane. I'd rate most gamers/furries somewhere in the N-CN band, except for the few that are god-awfully-obvious some kind of Lawful. The difference is, in D&D the adventurers are actively seeking out adventure, wrongs to right, and such, and as regular people we aren't. If the standard of what constitutes good was relaxed a little bit, a bunch could probably be classified as really ineffective NGs and CGs.

Date: 2004-05-10 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eselgeist.livejournal.com
the d&d system is pretty simplistic to me.
i tend to think people are waaay more complicated and can
emcompass ana/all number of "alignments" at varying points in
time or, even, simultaneously.

which is to say, you've been all of the permutations, to my mind,
at some point. just like most folks.

not a terribly interesting answer, i know.

Date: 2004-05-10 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
Chaotic Neutral, 'cos you're not really trying. And of course you don't see yourself that way, you think you're Neutral Evil.

But no one really is Evil in the way they think they're evil except the really depressed & the pure seekers of power/wealth/whatever.

Anyway, the D&D alignments are bunk. I agree with Monte Cook's (http://www.montecook.com) paradigm: there are infinite alignments, everyone is their own. You're a Creator/Destroyer; with serious problems, after all the time you spend in the realm of your Imagination, in defining yourself as real.

Date: 2004-05-10 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sirius-achamoth.livejournal.com
Chaotic Good.

Date: 2004-05-10 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
True Neutral with tendancy towards Chaotic Good.

For the most part, you look out for yourself. You are not nessicarily greedy, but you tend to stick with what works for you best, and doesn't get you killed. Self-motivated intrest with no tendancy to desire revenge or ill towards others is the definition of Neutrality.

However, you do tend to do things your own way, and encourages others not to think in same minded behavior that others do, for the benifit of others. If you had to make a choice in doing something, I belive that you would do something that would help others, as well as helping yourself. You are against the current extablishment, and wish others could see things the way you do. This first half is a good trait, the last half is a Chaotic one (As in, opposed to Order).

So that is how I see you.

Date: 2004-05-10 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paka.livejournal.com
Chaotic neutral.

While you do have good leanings and pursue your art in a moderately disciplined manner, I don't see you having any particular like or dislike for lawful societal systems (just what's there, that's all), and don't have any especial ethical crusades (I have this gut feeling though you could become more of a Queer-rights activist over time).

I agree with Eselgeist that the D&D system is pretty oversimplified.

Date: 2004-05-10 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doodlesthegreat.livejournal.com
I'm not a D & D fan, so I'll say your alignment is slightly out of kamber, but you're tracking well. (A little automotive humor.)

Date: 2004-05-10 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holohedron.livejournal.com
Chaotic Neutral, with Good tendencies. That because you're noncomformist, opinionated in attitude, altruistic by reflex. A guarded optimist.

...I only have LJ posts to go on, so this may or may not be accurate. ;>

Date: 2004-05-10 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinky-treecat.livejournal.com
I have to agree with Esel: The D&D alignment system is not terribly well suited to judging people in the real world. Who really thinks of themselves as 'Evil' for example? Not posergoth 'evil' but really batshit insane 'EVIL'!? No one really.. even murderers usually think of themselves as justified in their actions, some believe they are doing God's work.

Assigning an alignment to someone says as much about the perceptions of the person assigning the alignment, about who they are, as it does the person they are judging.

So.. that said, you are Chaotic Evil and I love you for it, mistress. >.<~ Yes! Beat me! Hurt me!!!

;)

Date: 2004-05-11 10:43 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-05-11 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holohedron.livejournal.com
Not to interrupt anything here ;) but I always thought the Evil alignment meant selfishness, not insane villainy. Chaotic Evils would be selfish rebels; Lawful Evils, selfish people following the rules (most corporate C.E.O.s)

Me, I tend to vacillate between two behaviors. On the one, I'm meek, and follow rules so long as they benefit me. On the other, I'm empathic and have a strong desire to help others, damn what society thinks. So, Neutral Evil/Chaotic Good for me. :)
From: [identity profile] 403.livejournal.com
True neutral tending towards chaotic good. Being a 'mean bitch' if it's called for doesn't make one evil, but it does somewhat balance the good tendencies (measured against the paladin archtype of 'stupidly good'). I'd be surprised if you ever drifted far in the lawful direction.
From: [identity profile] koogrr.livejournal.com
I was thinking Van Hellsing, from the recent movie, could qualify as a Paladin and an example of LG that wasn't Awfully Stupid Good.
From: [identity profile] 403.livejournal.com
Interesting. The number of reasons to see that movie is approaching critical mass. That's not happened in a while.

Date: 2004-05-11 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prickvixen.livejournal.com
Lawful Evil!

You eat pizza and mac'n'cheese all the time, making you Lawful.

You bite me, making you Evil.

Easy!

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