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In Illustrator, pressing 'esc' while editing type leaves the type object, switching you back to the arrow pointer with your changes intact.

In Photoshop, pressing 'esc' while editing type cancels all changes you've made to the type object.

Guess which behavior I'm used to? Guess how expecting that behavior makes me swear like a rabid sailor with Tourette's when I'm using fucking Photoshop?

"Unified interface" my ass.

Also while I'm swearing at Photoshop, who the fuck thinks it is a good idea to constantly resize your goddamn document window when you zoom in with apple +/-? I fucking hate that. I'm constantly resizing the window again so it's not covered by the goddamn palettes; Illustrator just takes the size I give it and stays there.

Any day in which I have to use Photoshit for anything besides scanning is not a happy day.

Date: 2009-05-12 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tracerj.livejournal.com
Preach it, sister. Oh, and don't try undoing that accidental Escape, because that text is gone gone gone.

I don't even remember what InDesign does, but... it's got its own set of legacy stuff from back when it was PageMaker... back when it was somebody else's... back when it wasn't interface-designed as a digital publications layout tool, but as a digital interface replacement for a lot of real-world physical concepts that just need to be scrapped because we don't work that way anymore!

Though, I still like the Story Editor for some things....

Date: 2009-05-12 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ztoical.livejournal.com
ahh I was just screaming at photoshop for doing the document resize thing just today - it drives me fucking batshit!

Date: 2009-05-12 10:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inaki.livejournal.com
You know that in photoshop you can remove the "resize window" check at the top when zooming, and it'll stop doing that >.>

Date: 2009-05-12 10:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
No, I do not know this, or I wouldn't be bitching about it. Where is this check found?

Date: 2009-05-13 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inaki.livejournal.com
When the magnifier tool is selected, the toolbar has an option that says Resize Windows To Fit. remove the checkmark next to it and the windows should hold their size independent of zoom.

Date: 2009-05-13 12:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Ah, thanks! I always magnify by using the keyboard shortcuts, so I'd never see that.

Date: 2009-05-13 03:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Sadly, this does not seem to affect the behavior of the apple +/- shortcuts to zoom - it is off, and they still resize. FUCK YOU ADOBE.

Date: 2009-05-12 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com
I thought there was a config option to kill the zoom thing in Photoshop.

But then, I'm Gimp.

Date: 2009-05-13 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
Oh God, I tried to like Gimp, could not do it. Everything about its interface was like nails scraping down a blackboard. I'm still using my old copy of Photoshop 5.5 for everything, like I have for the last like ten years XD

Date: 2009-05-13 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com
Gimp's UI has changed alot since 0.9... 1.0... 2.0... 2.2... 2.4... now 2.6 and there's no toolbar on the toolbox like 2.4 used to have. But, you still have right-click menus.

Eh, I grew up on Gimp.

Date: 2009-05-13 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
I'm calcified, I have muscle memory in Photoshop so deeply ingrained I can't even use a newer version of Photoshop. :D Maybe eventually I'll get a copy of CS4, if I can completely customize the interface.

Date: 2009-05-12 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyoteseven.livejournal.com
I love reading posts such as this.

It is so... human!

Date: 2009-05-13 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamenkyote.livejournal.com
I hate that PS, of all the programs I use will NOT toggle between windows using command ~. I swear it's the only one that doesn't. Gah! I share a little of your pain.

Date: 2009-05-13 07:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlazycat.livejournal.com
I agree wholeheartedly with the document resizing grumble, but not coming from an Illustrator background, I'd be similarly annoyed if hitting Escape when editing text stopped behaving the way it has for the last 14 years.

Adobe seem to justify a version upgrade by moving shit around, but generally things keep acting the way they used to, so I grumble but get used to it. If they start fucking with Photoshop's behaviour, I'll... I'll.. complain some more (what choice do I have? It's not like there's anything else we can use seriously). I hear CS4 is so bad because they've re-implemented half the UI as Flash widgets.

Date: 2009-05-13 12:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I'd be similarly annoyed if hitting Escape when editing text stopped behaving the way it has for the last 14 years.

This is true. This is one of the reasons I 'm not using AICS4, for instance - they changed the behavior of the buttons in the pathfinder palette, and I really do not want to retrain a decade of expectations.

I would be happy to just have a preferences switch somewhere that defaulted to the traditional, completely wrong and unnatural behavior that you have gotten dulled to. *grin*

Date: 2009-05-13 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlazycat.livejournal.com
I think Adobe's got the same issues with the Creative Suite as Microsoft has with Office: their products have been feature-complete for years, and everyone who needs them already owns them. So to sell more copies, they mess around with the UI. The only reason I went to CS3 was to get a Universal Binary - how crappy is that?

Like Office, the real problems are so deeply ingrained that to fix them you kinda have to throw out the baby, the bath-water, and most of the bathroom. Adobe and Microsoft have neither the desire nor the ability to compete on that level (they'd be mad to try, although I suppose Lightroom totally counts).

Date: 2009-05-13 01:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Yeah, the only thing that tempts me to CS4 is "you know how we broke using the free transform tool on meshes in CS3? We fixed that." And the only thing that has me on CS3 is that CS2 doesn't work on my new machine.

Every time they do useless UI tweaks I keep eyeing the competition. Such as it is.

Also I really really wish they'd automatically pick up your damn custom key settings from the old version; I am so tired of rebuilding my preferred keystrokes every update.

Date: 2009-05-13 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlazycat.livejournal.com
Hah, yes. Potatoshop's the worst, except for all the others. :) Shame that Acorn and Pixelmator turned out to be not much more than Cocoa/CoreImage demos.

Date: 2009-05-13 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eriscontrol.livejournal.com
Wait, really? I've been using Pixelmator; it's missing a lot of features that Adobe®©℗ Pootshoop™℠ᵠᵚᵜ has, but it's a fairly usable image editor for me.

Date: 2009-05-13 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eriscontrol.livejournal.com
I have a broken lawn chair and a sledge hammer, wanna head over to Adobe's headquarters? :P

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