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Woo. Buying 78 frames is not gonna be cheap.

Date: 2008-06-23 09:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
Build them yourself. o_o My senior show (this was fucking 10 years ago) cost me $350 to frame. For five pieces.

Date: 2008-06-23 10:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I'm just gonna go with cheap commodity prefab stuff. I know buggerall about making frames and this is not the time to learn.

78 pieces is just a lot to frame no matter how you do it.

Date: 2008-06-23 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
If you go prefab, you might be able to find them in bulk online, you're framing enough for it, I bet.

Date: 2008-06-23 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orb2069.livejournal.com
+ this one.

When I had to frame a show for somebody back in the 80's, I bought the cut frame pieces en masse from the area's largest shop, and sourced the glass from a large distributer - It cut the price down to a third the cheapest quote from a framer, and it only took a evening with a flat-blade screwdriver.

...and in the end, she turned a profit on the show because of it. Probably not something you need to worry about(since you actually have talent.), but worth thinking about.

Date: 2008-06-23 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] circuit-four.livejournal.com
And I'm sure we could get help with the labor part. Whee, frame party! :D

Date: 2008-06-24 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
The glass is a killer. If you can get good fiberglass from a home depot-style place, that might be a lot cheaper than a frame shop.

This is why I always just hung up stretched canvas or used clips to hang up raw illustration board at con art shows. :D

Date: 2008-06-24 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orb2069.livejournal.com
IIRC, I wound up using aluminum frame edges, and single-pane unfinished (Sharp edges, but lots cheaper) glass cut to size from the largest dealer in the area - and the prices varied quite a lot. Plexiglass just didn't look as good in my opinion - But that was a while back, and it might have changed.

Clips are a bajillion times cheaper than frames, but get the glass edges finished if you're using them, or somebody WILL get cut. Leather gloves would be a good investment for whoever handles the glass.

Date: 2008-06-24 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursulasart.livejournal.com
Ikea base frames and get a bulk place to cut your mats to fit?

Date: 2008-06-25 12:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
A quote at the art store involving pre-made frames from their sources, and some healthy discounts for the bulk, worked out to a little more than the low four figures I'm gonna be paying to print the stuff. Mats are NOT really an option.

Date: 2008-06-24 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ff00ff.livejournal.com
Cards don't go in frames, mount them on matte board with spray on adhesive. Too ghetto?

Date: 2008-06-24 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orb2069.livejournal.com
Way too ghetto, unfortunately. Print and $20 frame = $300 sale. Print and no frame? People think 'poster' and want to pay accordingly.

Date: 2008-06-24 05:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
$20 frame is what I'm aiming for. $20 frame x 78 cards = $eek!

I can afford $eek, I just wasn't expecting to be shelling out several hundred dollars just for the frames.

for $eek in $deck do:

Date: 2008-06-24 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orb2069.livejournal.com
Reminder: I'm speaking from a limited dataset which may not be applicable to your market. Do the gallery people have an opinion on prep/whatever as far as what sells? They probably know their market best, and might even have vendors that would be willing to cut you a deal.

Re: for $eek in $deck do:

Date: 2008-06-25 12:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I'm going to be discussing framing with 'em soon. And really, I wasn't intending for this to be a hunt for solutions - I thought I hit the 'no comments' switch when posting this, as I just wanted to record the fact that even if you can get it down to $5 apiece with cheap commodity frames, framing 78 pieces is NOT CHEAP.

Re: for $eek in $deck do:

Date: 2008-06-25 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orb2069.livejournal.com
Ahhh, Male Answer Syndrome (http://www.geocities.com/heartland/plains/6271/heshe061.html) strikes again. On behalf of my gender, and for myself personally, I apologize.

Date: 2008-06-24 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jirris-midvale.livejournal.com
Man, it's too bad you aren't on the west coast. I work for a frame store, and there's a big sale going on right now. All the frames are basically 50% off, in every store in the whole chain. None out east, however. It's something I could make happen, but shipping would make a big dent in the savings.

Just curious, but what color/size do you need?

Date: 2008-06-25 12:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Probably black; it'll go with everything and unify them a little. 56@10x15", 22@20x30".

(Approximate sizes - I'm looking into coercing them to fit into mass-marketed sizes but the actual images are drawn at 5.5x8.5" so it turns out they don't quite fit anything.)

Date: 2008-06-25 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jirris-midvale.livejournal.com
The 20x30's you can find easily. The other size, not so much.

I looked around, and found a place that can make them for $11.50 a piece. Still need glass, and have to put them together.

This is an expensive project.

Date: 2008-06-25 01:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm gonna have to juggle the sizes around. The little ones may go to 8.5x11 or 11x14.

Some calculating shows that if I can find a cheap source for edges in arbitrary inch lengths (I've seen those on the market, but not so cheaply) I can get pretty exact fits to the images (with no need to fudge borders) at 9x14 or 11x17 and 20x31. But then I have to get involved with cutting and transporting glass or plexi, ugh.

It is, indeed, expensive. Good thing I don't need to worry as much about it turning a profit.

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