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A thought I had whilst browsing through one of the several local used bookstores.

What, dear observer of my life through the window of this journal, do you think I should read?

To make things more interesting, we'll add some rules: You get to offer one book. It doesn't have to be in print. It doesn't have to be easy to find. It does have to be in a language I can read, which is to say, English, and only English. If there's a really good translation that's okay, but don't forget to note who translated the version you read. Graphic novels are okay too; individual issues of comics, or whole series, aren't. But bound collections of a story originally told in serial form are.

Maybe something you just found well worth the time of reading, maybe something that changed something important about the way you think of something, maybe something you think that I in particular need to read. One book. Just one.

Date: 2003-06-15 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perlandria.livejournal.com
Mother West Wind Stories

because I swear I can remember reading them as a kid and I can't find them anywhere. Maybe you can.

Date: 2003-06-15 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrobunny.livejournal.com
I could suggest a million, but I just finished reading Neil Gaiman's American Gods and enjoyed it very much. So I guess I'd have to recommend that one as it's freshest on my brain.

Date: 2003-06-15 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-folsom622.livejournal.com
Ooh, good one. There's also The Golden Compass by Philip Pullman -- if you like that one it's the first of a trilogy.

Date: 2003-06-15 07:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Read the whole trilogy. *grin* You, too, can offer another suggestion if you like.

In fact, I'd recently re-read them for no real reason, and thus, one of the books I picked up while at the used book store was one of Pullman's other books, 'The Ruby in the Smoke'.

Date: 2003-06-15 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-folsom622.livejournal.com
Tsk. Let's see, then... have you read The Grapes of Wrath? It gets long-winded in the odd chapters, but the evens are quite entertaining, and the whole book is a masterpiece.:)

Date: 2003-06-15 07:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Read it already. Have it, in fact. You can offer another suggestion if you like.

It was interesting, but it really just seemed to be lacking something. I think this is a fault I have with Gaiman's writing rather than the particular book; I've read that, 'Neverwhere', 'Coraline' and um, one other book whose name I can't recall that was really trying hard to be Lord Dunsanay.

The Sandman stuff I've read is intruiging, but his prose novels just... I dunno. I can't put my finger on it. They're entertaining while I'm reading them, but there's an emptiness deep down in their cores.

(If you enjoyed the subject of 'American Gods' you might enjoy some of Roger Zelazny's books; mutations of divinity and legend are a theme that runs through many of his books, especially 'Creatures of Light and Darkness' [Egyptian gods] and 'Lord of Light' [Hindu gods].)

Date: 2003-06-15 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrobunny.livejournal.com
Daw. :) I'll have to check out Zelazny's books, because it really was the theme of American Gods that I liked. Two of the books that are currently tied at the very top of my recomended list is Rushdie's Satanic Verses and Danielewski's House of Leaves. It's way too hard for me to pick between the two...both can be difficult reads, but totally worth it to me. If you've read both of those, then I'll go look at my shelves for another title. :P

Date: 2003-06-15 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenris-lorsrai.livejournal.com
If you liked American Gods, try these books as well:
Dark Cities Underground- Lisa Goldstein- a reporter tracks down the son of a famous author who wrote widely popular series of children's books based on the boy's trips to the land of NeverWas (think like Winnie the Pooh), who wants nothing to do with it. However, as they delve into the past they discover the truth behind boyhood experience and the land where the gods still live...and its not nearly as nice and sanitary as the kids book made it out to be.

Someplace to be Flying- Charles DeLint- a cab driver picks up an unusual late night fare and finds himself drawn into an encounter with the 'animal people' straight out of myth, given new form and purpose in the modern age

Coyote Blue- Christopher Moore- alright, this is not at all serious. Coyote decides to meddle in the life of his chosen one... a life insurence salesman. For all the tricks and pranks in this, there's a serious reason why Coyote makes someone's life hell, he's dying. No one tells the old tales anymore and the safe sanitized coyote (sold on dreamcatchers everywhere!) is killing him. He needs to make some new stories for people to tell. anubis makes a guest appearance.

Date: 2003-06-15 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gealflings.livejournal.com
Hehe.. I LOVED Coyote Blue.. I was going to recommend something by Christopher Moore.. hehe.. Now I've got to re-think. Dangit. :D

Date: 2003-06-15 10:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I haven't read either of those.

Date: 2003-06-15 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyrobunny.livejournal.com
Muaha! Success!
I'll give you a very basic summary of each (but there's so much more to the plots than this):
Satanic Verses: A plane explodes over the english channel. Two Indian men drop from it and land on earth as the archangel and the antichrist. They go through several changes and experience dreams that give them eye witness accounts of miracles and events that are in the Quran. Apparently it's considered a blasphemous book, and got the author's name on several hitlists. He's still in hiding, but shows up at talk shows and booksignings on occassion...
House of Leaves: It's a "horror/suspense" (thought you'll most likely just find it in the regular fiction section) novel written about a house that changes its own dimensions on the inside, but the coolest thing about this book is the way it's printed...it gets to points where a character will be walking down a spiraling staircase, so the text will spiral, or at a particularly suspenseful scene there's only one word per page so you're turning pages like a madperson. It's great, because it's the ultimate puzzle within a book...it's got plot, yet there's so many subplots and side puzzles you can solve or get involved in.

Date: 2003-06-15 10:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Oh, that's cool. I've occasionally read comic books that play games with the layout and coerce you into slowly rotating the book as you read it (most noticeably Cerebus; near the end of High Society, Sim suddenly turns the book sideways, then makes you do a slow turn through one issue's worth, letting you think for a moment that everything is right-side up again before twisting sideways again;a few years later he did a 360° to emphasize the start of the final chapter of Church & State II), but I've never seen anyone do it in text.

Date: 2003-06-16 01:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
House of Leaves is one of the most incredible books I've ever read. :D

Date: 2003-06-15 07:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wootsauce.livejournal.com
Hmm-- I want to reccomend something really good, but every book I've been reading lately has had an exciting title such as The Evolution of Grammar or Describing Morphosyntax (both very interesting but not at all what you're looking for รด_o) I'll say The Handmaid's Tale, because that comes up in my mind a lot, even though I read it quite a while ago.

Date: 2003-06-15 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadeykins.livejournal.com
West of January by Dave Duncan. I really liked it. It was rereleased recently with a fancy new cover, but you can probably find a copy with the old goofy looking cover for cheap at a used book store (I did. :3)

Date: 2003-06-15 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamenkyote.livejournal.com
Jonathan Carroll's, "Outside the Dog Museum," or, if you can't find that, his "The Wooden Sea." Carroll makes me think like no other and when I'm reading his books, I'm lost. He has lots of books, most of which are hard to find, but those two are often in the local Border's. He's one of Gaiman's influences and he most certainly does not leave a hollow feeling. If you can't find Dog Museum, let me know. I have one extra copy of that for lending purposes.

-T'

The one true Book

Date: 2003-06-15 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenris-lorsrai.livejournal.com
Alright, there is no one true book, but if I have to pick just one, Hermann Hesse's Steppenwolf. It has 2.5 literary conventions I hate and I still loved it.
Why 2.5 hateful conventions? Its written in first person, which I hate reading. There's one. It also does the book within a book thing. The outer frame of the story describes the main character and then sets you into reading his journal. Within the journal he then reads another book, which describes himself. Thus the other 1.5.

basic plot: harry Holler sees himself as two people, the somewhat dull rational human self and the wild beast that drives him away from his fellow men. To succumb to either is disaster, one would force him to give up his humanity, the other would make him become part of the dull safe bourgeoisie he despises. Harry thinks about ending it all until he runs into wild carefree Hermoine and discovers the route the magic theatre which is meant for madmen only.

It is a trip and a half. I normally find most "find yourself" type works horrible pretentious, and it had the 2.5 literary conventions I hated, and yet I loved it anyway. That means it must be a damn good book to overcome those marks against it.

Date: 2003-06-15 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gealflings.livejournal.com
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..

I'd go with "Jitterbug Perfume" by Tom Robbins, but I'm sure you've read it.

Date: 2003-06-15 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perlandria.livejournal.com
I have!
ooooh read it!

Date: 2003-06-15 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gealflings.livejournal.com
Ooh, right on..Tom Robbins is probably my favorite author, so anything by him (except "Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas" - I didn't like that one much, but it has a lot of tarot references in it ((and references to the way asparagus effects the scent of urine, but that's just typical Tom Robbins)), so it may be something you'll want to check out in your tarot explorations..hehe) would be highly recommended. :) Too bad you don't live closer - I'd loan you a stack. hehe

Date: 2003-06-15 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 403.livejournal.com
You might like Keith Hartmans' The Gumshoe, the Witch, and the Virtual Corpse. It's a near-future detective story that he manages to make work with eleven(!) viewpoint characters. It has an interesting set of themes as well, but I don't think I could describe them without giving away what's in the book.

(I found your journal through the art_challenge (http://www.livejournal.com/~art_challenge) community.)

Date: 2003-06-15 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ursulav.livejournal.com
China Mieville, Perdido Street Station.

And if by some weird quirk you have not read it, even though you will doubtless find it shallow and the ending apalling, Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson, 'cause, I mean, c'mon.

Date: 2003-06-15 10:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Stephenson, it seems, is experiencing some weird kind of reverse progress in a particular area of storytelling - the ending of each of his books is less satisfying than the last. Zodiac actually ends. Snow Crash kinda judders to a stop. Diamond Age unravels, and Cryptonomicon simply stops making sense. Well, one thread ends, but all the other ones just leave you going 'huh?'; all I remember from that one is the chapter on the sensual experience of eating Cap'n Crunch.

I don't have a first edition paperback of Snow Crash because it vanished somewhere along the way. I think I loaned it to someone and never got it back. Which reminds me that I need to get Goodwin's copy of Tomoe Gozen back to him someday!

Date: 2003-06-15 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] martes.livejournal.com
"The Ecology of Fear" by Mike Davis. A must-read for people living in Los Angeles who want to understand why we keep having horrible things happen to us.

Date: 2003-06-15 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ilthuain.livejournal.com
'Foucault's Pendulum' by Umberto Eco is a must for the uninitiated.

I would suggest Cities of the Red Night, but you have voiced some concern over Mr. Burroughs in the past, so I will say no more.

Date: 2003-06-15 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mutleyjames.livejournal.com
Oliver Sacks: "The man who mistook his wife for a hat".
What an amazing spectrum of neurological phenomena.

Date: 2003-06-15 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nigel.livejournal.com
Gun, With Occasional Music (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0312858787/qid=1055746127/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/002-2684567-0464854?v=glance&s=books&n=507846), by Jonathan Lethem. It's a quick read but I think there are plenty of things that you'll find appealing. For one thing, it features some animal-head people (including a kangaroo hit-man), without being a full-on "furry" novel. Also, the setting is an odd mutation of the noir genre. Sort of a cross between a trashy, 1930s detective story and Blade Runner...

Date: 2003-06-16 10:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Read it. And a couple other of his books. I'd probably have a few more if his stuff ever came out in paperback instead of $14 trade paperbacks...

Date: 2003-06-16 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sebkha.livejournal.com
Mink! by Peter Chippindale, 1995. A horde of fur-farm mink go feral and square off against the natives. The author was a political journalist before getting into fiction, making this more than just the vison version of Watership Down.

Date: 2003-06-16 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tugrik.livejournal.com
The Long Run by Daniel Keyes Moran.

This was before 'cyberpunk' was a movement. It was also quite early for the speculation on genetic manipulation of humans affecting how society operates. I recommend it because, at the time I read it some years ago, I found it brilliantly written.

It's out of print but can be acquired by a 'print on demand' bookservice these days. I picked one up and will be happy to lend it to you next time our paths cross. Some of the imagery the book creates would mesh very well with your future-city/dark-city artwork I've seen you do.

Date: 2003-06-16 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pobig.livejournal.com
Hmm, I'll recommend A.A. Attanasio's The Last Legends of Earth, for being really, really bewilderingly strange, just because it doesn't bother with any familiar background at all. "What if you lived on a fantastic, artificial solar system... and there was no comprehensible reason for it?" is as close as I can come to conveying the effect it had on me.

Date: 2003-06-16 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbinerocks.livejournal.com
Foucault's Pendulum. Totally.

Date: 2003-06-16 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricgecko.livejournal.com
I'll go with Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser.

My dad got me a copy, which has since been loaned out and lost track of. I think [livejournal.com profile] octantis still has it; I should ask him and see if he's done reading it and if so, see if he'll to mail it to you.

Anyway, it's interesting social analysis: a mix of history about the fast food industry, theories about shifting American ideals/habits, with some nice gruesome descriptions of just how abysmal working conditions and standards can be even in this, our "modernized" country. (Boiling chlorine mist and severed limbs... yee.) I do still eat fast food after reading it, but this could be because I don't ever eat the meat at these places!

...what, am I the only person who likes nonfiction?

Date: 2003-06-16 10:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Read [livejournal.com profile] prickvixen's copy. That book pretty much destroyed any lingering vestiges of a fast food habit I may have had... the last time IO had a burger at McDonald's, it was so foul that I wanted to kill myself rather than digest it and have it become part of me.

Date: 2003-06-16 07:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laturner.livejournal.com
"Sleep Thieves" by Dr. Stanley Coren. It's non-fiction, but it changed the way I thought about sleep. Basically it's a book by a researcher who was studying the effects of lack of sleep. After reading it, I decided to actually set a bedtime for myself, and the improvement in my mood was amazing. I've been bad again lately about staying up too late, but I want to get back to it because I love waking up in the morning and actually being able to think.

The empire never ended

Date: 2003-06-16 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricdog.livejournal.com
VALIS by Philip K. Dick. Absolutely brilliant.

Date: 2003-06-16 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dustmeat.livejournal.com
A A Attanasio's "Dragon and the Unicorn"
The best retelling of Arthurian legend EVER.

Date: 2003-06-16 11:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
How about the Amazing Adventures of Kaviler and Clay, Michael Chabon.

-smurfwreck

Date: 2003-06-16 01:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Read that one, though it's not in my library. An interesting presentation of stuff based on the history of comics...

Date: 2003-06-16 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofstripes.livejournal.com
Alan Lightman, Einstein's Dreams. Short, thought-provoking read. Though it's by a physicist about a physicist, it has very little to do with science. It's a series of magical realist vignettes about alternate worlds dreamt by Einstein during his lunchbreaks as a patent clerk. In each world, one law of metaphysics is altered and Einstein sleeping mind ponders its effect on human society: time goes backwards and people feel nostalgic for their old age; time passes more slowly at higher altitudes, so people mount their homes on enormous stilts for longer lives. It's all a good exercise in paradigmatic gymnastics.

Date: 2003-06-16 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markpasc.livejournal.com
I read Einstein's Dreams a while ago, and recently have been trying to stumble through Ayssar Arida's Quantum City (http://quantumcity.com/) after finding it in the library's new books by its interesting cover and premise—that quantum physics is a useful metaphor for urban design—and found in the first chapter that Einstein's Dreams is what led the author to read about quantum physics to begin with. It was funny to read in print his thoughts about a book I'd actually read. (I can't recommend Quantum City itself yet, as that first chapter is all I've managed to read.)

Date: 2003-06-17 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paka.livejournal.com
Since I'm already in a ranty groove about the Holocaust; Maus, by Art Spiegelman. I don't know how much you'd relate to the graphic novel, but it's a lot more honest than the treatment the Holocaust usually gets, and it's an interesting exercise in how to say serious shit using comics as a medium.

If I must recommend ONLY ONE book...

Date: 2003-06-20 09:31 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
...it'd be A Distant Mirror: the Calamitous Fourteenth Century by Barbara Tuchman.

It has the drawback of having once been a New York Times best-seller, but despite that it's actually very, very good.

If you've already read it, I've got a couple of alternates.

--Retardosperm

Date: 2003-06-20 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
_A Fine and Private Place_ by Peter S. Beagle.

Hugs to All,
A Certain Doebear

Bookses... My precious......

Date: 2003-07-08 12:52 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Only one book. That's impossible. Bridge of Birds, by Barry Hughart(?) comes to mind first. But then after (and a very very short while after) comes the ravening horde. THIS IS NOT A BOOK! This is an author: (Hah! Got around your restrictions, didn't I? =)) Robin McKinley.

Oh well. It probably doesn't matter. You'll never read this post because the thread is so old.

Re: Bookses... My precious......

Date: 2003-07-08 08:55 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
This is not, this is not a love song!

You forgot to reckon with the fact that I have LJ set to e-mail me every reply to a post. Even if it's on my very first entry ever back a little more than a year ago.

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