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I'm done with that drawing of [livejournal.com profile] revar. Well. Painting, by now. I may work in Illustrator, and use lots of flat colors, but I don't really think 'drawing' covers this any more.


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(previous versions: here, here.)

I used a lot more transparency on this one than I normally do. The wings, most of the mist, the ribs inside the ear... some really weird stuff going on with opacity masks. I think it came out pretty nice; the only thing I see wrong with it right now is that I neglected to do the earrings that were in the original sketch. And I'm not about to go through the hassle of exporting three different resolutions and uploading to six different galleries again; all that transparency takes forever to render!

It's good to know that I can still summon and maintain the focus needed for an image like this. I was starting to worry that I'd lost that capability. I guess I haven't.

Dude.

Date: 2003-10-29 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapdragon.livejournal.com
That's frickin' sweet! Best Revar ever!

Date: 2003-10-29 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goforthbyday.livejournal.com
that's -awesome-. the transparent effects are most excellent. *jealousy!*

Date: 2003-10-29 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mutleyjames.livejournal.com
:).
The transparency on the outline of the mist is excellent. Somehow blurry, yet crisp, but not. It makes me feel like I need to get my eyes checked.
Great color scheme as evar, much sepia creepia into your work lately. Noir?

Your Photoshop attempt oozes exasperation.
I've found myself losing patience with PS since I started on the infernally crisp path offered by Illustrator. But not as much as evinced by your PS image... not yet.

Date: 2003-10-29 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
*grin* In this case, the color scheme was somewhat dictated by the job: the character is a brown vampire bat. Add in some red to symbolize the blood she drinks, start flipping through the color idea book, the tan just kinda falls into place...

(actually, I'm pretty happy with the color scheme; I started partially with one out of a book, but I extended and built on it a lot instead of locking myself into it.)

For me, Photoshop is never the right tool for anything much beyond scanning. I need to remind myself of this. AI is no faster, but I'm not hating every minute of it!

Date: 2003-10-29 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medox.livejournal.com
Frickin' gorgeous!

Date: 2003-10-29 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mandrill.livejournal.com
Beautifully-done! :=)

Date: 2003-10-29 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slinky-treecat.livejournal.com
o.O; Woah! If I ever scrape together enough money to hire a tutor to teach me Illustrator, I know who I'm gonna hire. :) I didn't mention to your previous post but I love the way you drew her hand/wings.. the way a bat's flappy bits really work. Lots of artists seem to like making their batty characters into six limbed beasts, I think this is much better.

I take it that Revar is a wampire batty by the fang? *chuckle*

Date: 2003-10-29 11:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
*grin* It's just synchronized with the way my mind works, yknow?

I agree; while it's a pain to come up with clothing for a properly-winged bat (unless you punch grommets through the wings for straps, or something), it feels a lot better to me. It also helps that the character's explicitly described as having that sort of wing!

My favorite part of the wings is the way they work with the hand - the tendons probably wouldn't really want to bend that independently, but it's a nice break from the usual three fingers, thumb, one long finger thing that everyone's tended to do since, well, Zjonni's illos for the story Revar first appeared in. *smirk*

Yeah, she's a vampire bat, hence the fangs and the blood-red theme of the background and the drained corpse underfoot.

Date: 2003-10-30 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revar.livejournal.com
Yes, Revar's general form was defined fairly well by Watts Martin in his <plug>original stories.</plug>

He didn't specify the number of wing-fingers, though, which has lead to a variety of interpretations. I have pictures with Revar with 1+3+thumb, 1+4+thumb, 3+2+thumb, 3+3+thumb, and even 1+2+thumb configurations. :) I have to say this is the first one I've seen with alternating normal and wing-fingers though!

Zjonni says that he chose to have just one wing-finger, as he felt it was more attractive. Watts has mentioned that he felt there would have to be more, but he wouldn't be pinned down on how many. The general gist of the discussion seemed to be that Revar probably had more than the standard five digits.

My personal take on it was that she likely has six digits on each hand, with the end three being reversed, wrist-joint attached wing-fingers, leaving two regular fingers and a thumb.

Discussions with Watts about how Revar wears clothes seemed to suggest that she has piercings in the wing membrane along her side, allowing straps for bikini type tops, when she isn't wearing halter tops. Though to be honest, I can't quite see how she'd be able to tie the straps in back, with how the wing membrane would constrain arm movement. (I think!)

One of the interesting things about playing Revar is that I'm not the character's final authority! Yet Watts is vague enough about the specifics, that I have pretty loose guidelines within which to stay. Generally, I just gloss over the details, and keep it vague. The issue doesn't come up much, anyhow.

In any case, this is a wonderful picture of Revar, and is the first one I have of her "on the prowl". Thank you Peggy and Tug!

Date: 2003-10-30 08:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I just taped a pencil to each little finger to sort of simulate wing spars, and tried tying something behind my back, watching in the mirror to make sure they didn't move in such a way that they'd intersect if they were longer... it is possible, from bone structure alone. I'm not sure about the wing membranes, though. Maybe. I don't think her fingers would have to pass through her wings and arms to do it. She sure wouldn't be able to see what was going on, since bat wings are mostly opaque - I just like to draw them translucent because it's more fun. Getting the piercings would be pretty tough, too. I think you'd have to do them with the wings at full stretch and snap a grommet in to keep them from tearing under stress, probably trying to do it from the other side of her body - an uncomfortably intimate iteraction with the piercer.

She also must really appreciate having someone else handy to scrub her back when bathing. *grin*

(That experiment also gave me the beginnings of a sense of what her gestures must be like. Ultra elegant and pre-planned, because those long, long wing fingers have to be accomodated.)

I've seen various finger configurations on bats, but alternating manipulative and wing fingers are my own impulsive twist. I don't think the biomechanics would quite work, but looked neat... I feel weird drawing extra fingers on a hand.

Glad you like it! I was pretty happy with how it turned out myself.

Date: 2003-10-30 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kinkyturtle.livejournal.com
Aw, now, what's wrong with being a six-limbed beast?

Date: 2003-10-29 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vickshb.livejournal.com
Yeah! Another bat to add to my collection... Rar!
Think you can draw me too?

Date: 2003-10-30 09:29 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
You don't wanna know how much I'd probably have to charge for something like this... I guesstimated at how long it took, and even at about minimum wage and not counting the fearlier alse start with Photoshop, it's into three digits.

I owed Tug for a few things (like taking me to Burning Man!), including a commission of him that's been stalled longer than I want to admit, but normally... let's just say you don't get this for twenty bucks at a con table!

Date: 2003-10-30 11:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lapdragon.livejournal.com
Easily worth every penny of three digits. It's all 'rawr rawr!' but with class.

Date: 2003-10-30 04:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Yeah, it shocked me when I added it up, too, and I drew the damn thing. Art is harder than it looks!

Date: 2003-10-30 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vickshb.livejournal.com
Hey I like art nice, I know of artists doing nice jobs in no time, with a pen and eraser...

your art is special, I admit it...

Date: 2003-10-30 05:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
Pencils are quick! I took a half hour at most for that phase. Probably less. Including a little bat research. I draw quick. It's everything else that took so long...

Date: 2003-10-30 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maui.livejournal.com
That necklace is -fantastic-! Great work! :D

Date: 2003-10-30 09:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
The necklace has a lot more detail than anyone will ever really notice!



Four overlaid round-cap dashed lines to make the chain of beads and their highlights; the dangling ovoids are scatter brushes with no real scatter, so I get the ovoid repeated along the line. It originally dangled straight, but they completely obscured the subtle suggestion of form I did for the cleavage, so I used them to help suggest the form, implying that they were lying atop the curves a little exaggeratedly. Which also meant a little overlap, so you could see that they were transparent...

Or do you just mean that the necklace is an eminently covetable piece of jewelry? I know I sure want one like that!

(Pardon me suddenly sticking your face in bat cleavage, dear. *grin*)

Date: 2003-10-30 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revar.livejournal.com
Yes my dearies, keep looking down there. It makes dinner so much easier to catch. >:)

Date: 2003-10-30 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revar.livejournal.com
I gotta say it's kind of cool watching the PDF render layer by layer with the transparencies. Verrrrrrry nicely done!

Date: 2003-10-30 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hydra-velsen.livejournal.com
Looks awesome, Peggy! Now I'm gonna want one ;)

Date: 2003-10-30 08:13 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
I don't think Revar comes in six-packs. You might have some trouble acquiring your own personal bat. It's probably kinda dangerous, too.

Date: 2003-10-30 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doodlesthegreat.livejournal.com
That's just incredible. She appears almost like a flapper from the 1920's with those eyelashes, hair, and necklace. Art nouveau?

Date: 2003-10-30 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] circuscookies.livejournal.com
Wow. This is beautiful. You did an amazing job. I envy your talent. I agree, the necklace looks great, it seems so real.

Date: 2003-10-30 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zrath.livejournal.com


Super!
Incroyable!
Genial!
Epoustouflant!
Fantastique!
La plus dangereuse chauve-souris que je n'ais jamais vu!


Date: 2003-10-30 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dnellin.livejournal.com
Charming! I was looking at the necklace trying to decide what stones to render it in. If it was opaque, the cabochons might be nice in ivory. Gotta think this over...

Date: 2003-10-30 05:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
oooh. If you make one of those for real, I want one!

Date: 2003-10-30 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 403.livejournal.com
Wow. Just, wow.

What size is the original (in both pixels and amount of drive space used, if you don't mind)?

Date: 2003-10-30 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] shatterstripes.livejournal.com
It's done in AI, so pixel size is meaningless - I could print this to fit on the side of a building and still have ultra-crisp curves. The pencils were on an 8.5x11" piece of paper, scanned at 300dpi, but this is resolution-independent structured art. The Illustrator file is about 928k; I think it was about 750k or so when I exported an uneditable PDF to send to Revar.

23 layers, no idea how many shapes because the panel that told me that statistic has been redesigned and no longer offers that info. :P

Date: 2003-10-31 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] radd.livejournal.com
Even Peggy's artwork conforms to the Law of Fives...anyways, yes, great artwork, wonderful, beautiful. I apologize in advance if my critique is rambling in nature as I'm too cracked out on caffeine for my own good, but I definitely like this piece. I'm not feeling the blurred smoke, though, but that's just me because me and 'blur' aren't getting along lately. I've been seeing other options, communication has been breaking down, we've just wound up going our seperate ways for the time being. My fault. I needed some breathing space to try new things. Been flirting with contrast and saturation, and even been having scandalous thoughts of trying to talk contrast, saturation, and blur into one big background orgy. I don't know how they'd feel about that, and it might get me slapped, or worse, if I bring it up, but it just feels so right. You know?

I absolutely adore the translucent wings and the convinient footrest!

Date: 2003-10-31 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 403.livejournal.com
*nods* Neat. I might have to have a look at the program, once I have some free time to burn. Even a file with that amount of detail is several times smaller than a .psp of the resolution you scanned at with far fewer layers, and it seems like it'd be useful for stylised drawings. Thanks.

Date: 2003-10-31 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkdingo.livejournal.com
Jesus Christ on a corndog! That is fucking awesome!

o_0

*seethes with jealousy*

Date: 2004-03-08 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kurtbatz.livejournal.com
So prettiful ^_^ I love it

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